Super solid post, Fredrik! Glad the bros have a real expert to help avoid some serious importing problems!
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Heck yes! Fredrik rocked it
Definitely! I'm just glad Fredrik emailed me. I didn't even know most of this info!
The advice about checking their registered capital (and looking for RMB 500,000+) is solid. I almost bought from a supplier, until I saw they have less money in the bank than I do! And I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination (yet).
Good to hear this article could help in a real way Odai! Definitely not a good sign :) Good luck in finding a better one...
Gosh darnnit. . .I love your articles! That is all.
Fredrik, have you ever thought of providing a vetting service? e.g, if I identify a few companies that stock the product I need, but don't have the time / confidence to vet them myself, I'd pay you for the service. Would be great to know there was a legit agent to negotialte the minefield. Lucy
Haha - thanks Joanne! Glad they could help :-D
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Of course!! Curious - what is the group?
Wow, this was a really nice post. I wonder if this same applies for aliexpress
Glad you liked it Fawad - I think it would be the same on AliExpress. Most of the people on AliExpress are also selling to Alibaba, so I'd imagine the same would apply. Hope this helps!
Be aware that the registered capital does not indicate how much total capital a company has. It's just the amount of capital that they chose to officially register during the registration process. They may well have other capital besides that, especially if they registered some time ago.
Thanks for the heads up!
Sorry it took me some time to get back to this post, it's been a busy year to say the least! Aliexpress is different since it doesnt provide much information about the company you're purchasing from. However, unlike Alibaba.com you can get a pretty good idea about the supplier based on the feedback from other buyers.
Great to hear you've had a good year Fredrik :)
I do trust all the concepts you have offered to your post. They are really convincing and can definitely work. Still, the posts are too quick for novices. May just you please extend them a bit from subsequent time? Thank you for the post.
Hi Thanks for this article. Could you explain about gold membership, assessed suppliers, escrow and other buyer protection solutions?
Hello Lucy, I've been working as a sourcing agent in China for more than 4 years. However, we are very busy at the moment. If you'd like I could still recommend a few American and European owned sourcing companies.
Hello! I don't have time to answer all those questions (would pretty much require me to write another 1000 words), but I'll explain Gold Suppliers. A Gold Supplier is a membership and where Alibaba makes most of their money. It's for Alibaba what Adwords is for Google basically. Alibaba makes a basic review of the Chinese supplier that applies to become a Gold Supplier. This is the data described in this article. In return the supplier gets a Golden Badge to put on their company site. The only thing you can tell from the golden badge itself is that the supplier is a legally registered company in China. It says nothing about product certification compliance or the overall quality of their products.
I wish I had read this, and other sites before dealining with Shenzhen Umei Electronic, which runs a site at umeiusb.com. I purchase quite a few items from China and have never had any problems. However, I was recently approached by Elva ([redacted]) in regards to micro SD cards. I ended up purshasing some cards from them, which turned out to be a bad decision. The cards were supposed to be 4GB microSD, and in windows properties they should that capacity. However, when you go over 114MB of data, they fail and lose the data. They have completely ignored my emails and calls after they scammed me. I suggest you do not pruchase anything from them because once they get your money, the product is a fake, and you'll never hear from them again and they never answer the phone, no matter what time of day you call.
Don't expect to here anything from these scammers again. Among all the scam infested industries, I'd say that electronics is the worst. While China is #1 for electronics assembly, importing electronics requires a very sophisticated manufacturer. Not a low end trader buying and selling products intended for the domestic Chinese market. You're lucky though. If you would have started a business importing and selling these products, which are not in compliance with US or EU product certification regulations, you would've been liable for any personal or property damage caused by the product. (the insurance company would sue you) Stay away from electronics unless you have very clear product specifications and a well defined product concept. You also need to ensure that the supplier you're buying from has the required certification documents and implement a quality assurance process.
Hi How can i know US or EU product certification to take it as a reference for good quality product for example if i want to buy bar code reader whats the certification i must ask for?
CE and RoHS for the EU and probably FCC for the USA. There may be additional standards required in the US, I'll have to make some research on this. There are plans in the US and EU to settle on one set of standards sometime within this decade. This will certainly help a lot.
Thank you. You know maybe there is other some for electronics and others for auto parts, etc. maybe i will try to search.
Hi ! Good article. I can add that you go to the original web page, not the alibaba. There you might find the termination dot cn, like www.exampleco.com.cn That indicates that the company is real Chinese. Then pick product images and google image them. You might find really nice info following the threads of images. Right, my contribution. Now, I would like to ask how can I investigate commercial information to find the supplier of a certain company. Like accounting tax declarations. I am sure my supplier does not manufacture a product, so it comes it has to be buying somewhere. I am sure that information is submitted to their Tax organism. How can I reach that? These supplier is in Taiwan.
We absolutely love your blog and find most of your post's to be exactly I'm looking for. Do you offer guest writers to write content for you personally? I wouldn't mind composing a post or elaborating on a few of the subjects you write regarding here. Again, awesome blog!
I am looking to purchase 2 LED Message Billboards from China. 13' Tall X 30' wide, full color. Anyone know of a great company to deal with or of any bad ones to stay away from???
Hello Dan, I can't give away supplier references here, but I suggest that you read our article on LED screens: http://www.chinaimportal.com/blog/importing-led-screens-china-guide/
Thanks for the heads-up on this.
Thank you, but can you please give me best website to buy electronics.
Excellent post!!!
Hi, i've been chatting with a supplier about my chosen product. I've checked out their factory online, looked at all the certificates etc and they are a gold supplier. They seem legit however when it came to the email address i had to give to make a paypal transaction for the freight of the sample they gave a 'gmail' address. I was just a bit skeptical about a company using a free email program. Am i just being prude? or should i be concerned... thanks!
Good day all, It was several years ago that i got scammed by one of the gold suppliers from alibaba, i sent money with W/U and then never got items or my money back and they never replied my messages any more. So i learned my lesson, about dealing with dishonest people. I was excited about my "new business" idea and wanted to believe in good prices. I later found out more about the electronics market, and how those prices at alibaba website dont exist. However i do see there is a great potential for a website like this. Back when this happen to me i was living in Montreal Canada, now a few years later due to my job. Im now located in Bangkok, Thailand. So i immediately thought about Alibaba, that now i can be a supplier and deal with real people wanting to start their own business, and i can be their provider. So i opened my account. As a seller, and users from the site believe that just because they are Gold Suppliers, with the verified logo on them, they are safe (which is not the case). So i decided to pay and apply for my Gold status i payed $399 usd for the initial fee & verification process. After now 3 months with emails back and forward, i still dont have my status as gold supplier, and i didnt get my refund either. I provided more than enough information about my company which is legally registered, together with a notary letter witnessed by a lawyer assigned by the government, copy of my 2 official IDs, the company registered address, a phone and billing statement with the same address under my company's name and my bank account. They said that because the notary letter is not written on a specific format they can not validate my company. (So my official ID, an official stamped notary letter, witnessed by a lawyer, billing statement, legal registered company name etc. is not valid at all for them) They just sent me a supposed confirmation transfer from their HSBC account, where it doesnt even have my bank account details. So, the website and its sellers its all a Scam, such a shame because, it has really a good potential if they were legit. I am leaving my contact information if anybody is interested in making business. I am looking to take advantage of my position now that im located in Thailand, and merchandise prices are cheaper than in other markets around the world. I accept paypal and credit card payments, i also have an ebay account. So if you are interested please contact me. I wish you good luck with your business. Regards. Sebastian.
Good day all, Alibaba is all a Scam, as well as their sellers. It was several years ago that i got scammed by one of the gold suppliers from alibaba, i sent money with W/U and then never got items or my money back and they never replied my messages any more. So i learned my lesson about dealing with dishonest people. I was so ready to start my own business, that i landed at a vulnerable state of believing what i was being told. However i do see there is a great potential for a website like this. Back when this happen to me i was living in Montreal Canada, now a few years later due to my job. Im now located in Bangkok, Thailand. So i immediately thought about Alibaba, that now i can be a supplier and deal with real people wanting to start their own business, and i can be their provider. So i opened my account. As a seller, and users from the site believe that just because they are Gold Suppliers they are safe (which is not the case). They set their parameters so that only Gold Suppliers can contact them. I decided to pay and apply for my Gold status i payed $499 usd for the initial "verification" fee. Now after 5 months with emails back and forward, i still dont have my status as gold supplier. I provided more than enough information about my company which is legally registered, together with a notary letter witnessed by 2 lawyers assigned by the government, copy of my 2 official ID's, company's registered address and bank account. They said that because the electricity bill receipt i sent as prof of address is not on my name or my company's name, so because of this the verification department is denying my Gold Status membership, and they would give $379 usd refund as the $120 usd was the fee for the verification department. (Now just to clear that out, how can the electricity bill be on my name if I'm renting an apartment on a condominium building, So this is when i went and looked for a notary service that can verify and state that the registered address belongs to me, and is the same as my registered address for my company which is on my name, between the official notary fee, the 2 lawyers assigned by the government as witness, the stamp and the translation services i payed $800 usd.) The answer i got was, "we can not accept this letter as is not on the acceptable format for us". We are talking about an Official International document that is not valid for them. Now thats the first time i hear this nonsense. But at least im getting my refund of $379 usd, or so i thought. They just sent me a supposed confirmation transfer from their HSBC account, where it doesnt even have my bank account details. This was 5 months ago now emails have stop, and when i email them i get a "email could not meet recipients address" message. And of course i don't have my refund nor the Gold Status. So, the website and its sellers its all a Scam, such a shame because, it has really a good potential if they were legit. I am leaving my contact information if anybody is interested in making business. I am looking to take advantage of my position now that im located in Thailand. I accept paypal or credit card payments, i also have an ebay account. So if you are interested please contact me. Its been almost a year now that I'm in Thailand, don't expect to get from me same prices as the Alibaba "sellers" as those prices don't exist at all in the market. I have accounts directly with Apple, Sony, Samsung, and other big resellers in Thailand. I have done my research and i know the prices I'm able to get don't work for certain products for certain markets, but is all a matter of finding which product work for your target market. Whether is electronics (which brand and which model), is it cloths you are after, beauty products, etc. You can expect real prices, for real merchandise. I wish you good luck with your business. " If you dont give up, you cant lose" Regards. Sebastian. [redacted]
My company paid USD $2,000 for some garments and did not receive anything. Do not do business with this company: KW Winner Apparel. A man named Jerry was my contact but seems his email is bouncing now.
Hello Alan, Did you transfer money directly to a bank account owned by KW Winner Apparel? If you did, you might be able to report this to Alibaba. However, you're out of luck in case you transferred money to a beneficiary that is not matching the company name "KW Winner Apparel", a private account or by Western Union.
How good an indication is the "Verified by Alibaba and a third party" that a supplier is legitimate? I'm talking about avoiding complete scams where they may take your money and never ship the items. Also, how long do you think a supplier would stay listed on Alibaba if it was indeed a scam?
Hello! Thank's for your usefull article! I am from Romania, I want to buy from China some beauty tools; I found the supplier on Alibaba (Guangzhou Taimei Hairdressing Beauty Equipments Factory). I've dealed with them and I want to pay using paypal, but not using Alibaba. They send me the proforma invoice. I have verified them and they seems to be a honest and real factory, but still I have doubt because the email they give me to paypal is containing a name of a person ([redacted]), not the name of the company. What do you think? If I dont receive the goods, what chances I have to get my money back? Thank You!
Hello Ben, No, the only thing they verify is that the company is legally registered. Well, that says nothing. Bernie Madoff also had a legally registered company and that didn't really help anyone. Scams are more complicated that. The thing is that the scammers never use the company listed on Alibaba to defraud importers. Instead, they request the payment to another company account. When anyone complains, they can simply state that they didn't receive any money and therefore have no responsibility for the fraud. Which is true, because they didn't receive any money, another company (probably owned by an employee) did!
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Thank you for sharing this info. Its really good. Most of the days I am ending up paying custom tax equal to my product worth. any idea how to cut short it. I am getting products via china post. if I opt for fedex or DHL, can i avoid custom tax?
Thanks, appreciate the advice!
Great article and very much appreciated! Your articles are inspiring an inner importer in me I didn't know about! My confusion though lies in the area of trademarks. The watch company you mentioned (guangzhou guanghao watch co ltd) has the trademark 'Delishi' and the same name is listed as a brand name under a product description. Many thanks for a clarification on this.
Hello thank you for your rather informative article, which makes my entire search perspective more thorough. I have noticed that some companies do not mention their Registered Capital at all. Is it mandatory to do so?
I'd be interested to know the names of European-owned sourcing co's...I got enough to think about without the major risk of checking suppliers....most of what I see out there looks too good to be true, and you know what they say: "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is!"
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please i plan to order my wedding dress from keltoibride.com. please could you help confirm if they are not scammers. does anyone know reliable manufacturers that has good quality wedding and bridesmaid dresses on aliexpress or alibaba i can order from. thanks
Hi great article. Im setting up a beauty salon in bulgaria and i want to sell some beauty items do u know of any recommended wholesale websites that i could purchase from? this is all new to me. Any info much appreciated.
An impressive share! I have just forwarded this onto a coworker who has been doing a little homework on this. And he actually ordered me dinner simply because I found it for him... lol. So allow me to reword this.... Thanks for the meal!! But yeah, thanx for spending the time to talk about this issue here on your website.
I'm amazed, I must say. Seldom do I encounter a bpog that's both educative and engaging, and let me tell you, you have hit the nail on the head. The issue is something that not enough men and women are speaking intelligently about. I'm very happy I came across this during my hunt for something concerning this.
I'm waiting for the answer to this question, too. Thanks!
seller francesco angioli they will try to convence you to send the transfer first with wester union and will ask you send the scan of the paper without the mtcn and the details , and they will tell you will send the products to you and when you receive the products they will ask you the mtcn for withdraw the money , but really they dont need that mtcn code for withdraw the money , that is the way that i was scam for this company , be carefull all my friends
Hi! Thanks for the explanations. In fact, I am in contact with a supplier in Shanghai (China) to buy a smartphone. I asked for details about the company. They provide me with and in their invoices, there is the company name, address, phone numbers and the full detail of their representative if I opt for a bank transfer payment. is this company (FACTORY CONCEPTS GROUP LIMITED Room 297, 5 E 2 level area N° 2189, JiHe Road, Qingpu Shanghai jiading, China (Mainland)) trust one?I need your help.thanks
I know about the difficulties in the relationship myself with Chinese suppliers. I am British myself, married with a Chinese girl here in Ningbo China. I'm part of an international trading company which helps people interested in this article in helping them find suppliers. I have made several connections with manufacturers, especially with stationery and cleaning products etc. If you are interested in importing such products from China, don't hesitate to contact me [redacted].
When importing small items, like expensive gadgets, use the Alibaba escrow service. You have the option to dispute and hold transfer of payment if quality or item is far from your agreement with the supplier. If they do not accept escrow payment, walk away. For bigger orders, like full container loads, contact your embassy based in China. They have services that can help you weed out fake companies. For even bigger orders, I recommend pre-shipment inspection, or even factory inspection by reputable verification companies - SGS, TUV, Intertek. These help to make sure the contract will be complied with. Expensive, but probably cheaper and more convenient than having to fly there yourself and check the loading at the docks.
I am needing to find a manufacturer in China for Branded USB's and find it interesting that liasing with "Sales" people in trying to find a suitable factory, I have been declined from visiting the factory to discuss a longterm relationship until we have placed an order - Is this a normal way of dealing with Chinese factories??
Hello Pauline, No, that is not normal and most likely they have no factory. Also, don't try to buy brand name items from China.
Thank you Frederick, very helpful. Was a company controller for 20 years with MFG/exporter co that i founded - sold it - took a break - now venturing out again and starting an import distribution biz. So fun, but there sure are a truck load of scammers to navigate through. I posted a request for quotation on one item that I'm sourcing just to get a feel for the process. Woke up this am to 78 emails, many of which end with three number eg. [redacted]. As I sift through have a few that look legit....maybe. Is this what I should expect or did I cast too wide of a net? Thoughts...anyone? Thanks Lynne A
I have sent you an email seeking your help in recommending an authentic chinese company to buy Tablets PC. I would be glad for your advice.
Hi Andrew, I'm sorry to bother you, and this must sound like a stupid question, but, do all the goods on AliBaba.com come from China? Even if the supplier says they are from Korea? I am trying to import Korean skin care and am wondering if it is just the China products that are fakes, if branded, or all branded products on the website are fakes. As I want to deal with brands, this is of huge concern to me. I have not yet initiated any contact with the supplier yet, as I am still doing research and am ecstatic to have found your website of tips. If you could please advise me on this I would be extremely grateful for your time and effort. Thanks, Laura
Never deal with or pay a PI to Hong Kong RoyalseaR International. Sometimes different names appear, all European first names (no surnames). The phone numbers are false and you will lose whatever you send over, Luckily I only lost $750US. Cheers ... Eddy from New Zealand
Hi has anyone ever delt with El Hedaya furniture export company in Egypt also know as Maison furniture company.
Now, if I've found a "gold member" with a product I want to import, the company checks out and is completely legit, how can I know someone didn't copy the company's information, list the exact same products, and is just impersonating the owner? For smaller distributors I don't think it would be that hard to do, and even if I call the company everything will check out.
If you're asking I'd guess you have a bad feeling already and all I can say is trust your gut, or you'll be right back posting "Do not deal with X company". This is a fantastic article, read it and incorporate it into what you are already doing, otherwise you're only asking someone to do your job for you. Do your due diligence, don't try to "get rich quick", and test the crap out of your samples. You should be more nervous about how you can develop your brand than if you will be scammed. (I posted a hypothetical "perfect scam" for alibaba... absolutely everything can check out but you can never be 100% sure, welcome to the internet.)
Hey, I was wondering the same thing about the email and paypal account email. the company im dealing with has personalized emails to contact me with the company name at the end Ex: example@company name.com but their paypal is registered with a hotmail. Did you ever figure out if they were legit? Best regards, Phil.
I can only say bad things about Alibaba. Our company have only experienced losses and bad suppliers with the help of Alibaba. It is a very dangerous market place and I would recommend people traveling to China to deal with suppliers. You will save time & money! We had two incidents where two different suppliers delivered completely useless products. They trick you by sending out samples that are of high quality and then deliver a product that you can not even sell cheap. I wrote Alibaba twice and filed two complaints, I never heard from them or got an answer. And these two suppliers were 5 years gold members... Do not use Alibaba!
Totally agree - I will never deal with alibaba again! Contact someone who has a reliable 'finder' in China and use them (which I am doing) or go there yourself.
Don't buy from websites without pay-pal . Any serious seller can be paid on his pay-pal account .
This isn't 100% true, but as a rule protecting yourself with PayPal or Escrow is a good idea
You can also check, this before sending any money, at AlibabaScam.com to make sure the supplier is not listed in their scammer list !
So, finally, did you check? Are they trustworthy?
Thanks for this excellent article. When screening the company list you should verify that the 600 different models are actually different. some companies uses the same model, color for several product descriptions.
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Dear , Friends , This is Arun from Singhtex Co.,Ltd.,Bangkok, Thailand , Can any one suggest me how to minimize the fraud while importing goods from abroad , Besides Inspection Certificate is their any other way i can reduce my risk . I am quite new in this field so i need your expert advice. Regards Arun
Check out the other articles on importing here. We go through this more in-depth in our coaching programs but it's tough to pack all the knowledge into a single blog post. There are just so many variables!
Great post: i want to start importing original smartphones,tablets,laptops and play station please can u recommend a reliable supplier for me,please whats the status of Phoenix trade Llc
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Great post! i was wondering if you have to pay taxes if your buying out of state. How does that work for the states?
Hi Would you suggest using global sources to find reputable companies? I here that you're less likely to end up with scammers using them. Also theres a big thing going around that being an Alibaba gold member means nothing as the membership can just be bought.
It's certainly not EASY to become a gold member--it's a "necessary but not sufficient" kind of thing.
The website is not a scam, but many sellers are, and the website does not care much about scams. That is my experience. I bought ozon cleaner for car use, opened the product and inside the nice looking exterior was 1 diod light, 1 resistor and 1 transistor. That was all. No way this product can produce ozon and clean air. I told aliexpress this, and also send them pictures I had taken of the electronics, they told me they needed more proof for my claim, so I explained again why it is not possible that the product can produce ozon. Aliexpressed closes the case telling me in one sentence that my claim was wrong. I an certain that aliexpress knows it was a lie, since very basic knowledge of electronics is needed to understand that I was right. I even chatted with a representative from aliexpress at their website that comfirmed that I was right. But the people you chat with have no authority, it is the so called "expert team" that makes the decisions. The people you chat with tells you they will contact the expert team and also the seller but I did not get any answers from the expert team or the seller. I also chat with a person telling me that all that aliexpress do is connect buyer and seller and that they take no responsibility. It is only the seller that is responsible for a fraud. I argued that the problem in my case is the factory that produce the fake item, and that this item is sold by hundreds of shops at aliexpress, but aliexpress will not act to stop the product. It is up to each seller if they want to sell a fake item or not, and obviously very many sellers want to do that ...
Who are you using for your finder? I need a lot of different products. Also what do you think of globalsourcing.com
We use Alibaba primarily for sourcing. There are a host of other sites we use to find out which products will be profitable.
I shop on Ebay for more than 10 years and i can hardly recall any cases when i was unsatisfied. Quality of the sellers is high, there is a claim process in case of any problems and support team works quite fast. But from my point of view - the prices are higher then on aliexpress or dealextreme. Of course it's not right to simply compare those marketplaces, but 50% of ebay sellers sell the same things as on aliexpress. Or they just drop ship. In order to pick the right product among hundreds of choices i used to read reviews on the web site http://skuguru.com There are sections related to ebay, aliexpress and other internet shops.
Did I just get scammed, sent my money (yes, I'm an idiot) by W/U to a company in China for 2000 cell phone stand holders (I had planned to customize it for gifts and resale) now the guy I have been emailing said "due to schenzhen custom strictly checking for the month ect ect bottom line is he's saying I need to work out with customs a fee of $120? My guess is I've been scammed?
Have you ever thought about creating an ebook or guest authoring on other sites? I have a blog based on the same ideas you discuss and would love to have you share some stories/information. I know my subscribers would appreciate your work. If you're even remotely interested, feel free to send me an e-mail.
Hi...im brand new as a reseller...and scared to death to lose my hard earned money...would you mind to contact me sometime and talk?...I would like to find someone i can trust for long term relationship.....Im doing well in ebay...im currently a power seller and top rated plus account holder due to my sales volume and customer service....my US source has left me in the dust and i need someone who i can trust and source for me.....would you be interested?.....Im game for any ideas and any kind of merchandise ...thanks so much!!
Sure Vicky, You can contact me here: [redacted] Thanks. Sebastian.
Good day Dave, Sure, contact me: [redacted] Thanks Sebastian
Good day Japhet, I deal with smartphones and tablets. Im located in Mexico now, i have my suppliers from Thailand, Singapore and China. ( i went there myself ). I accept paypal, credit card, and L/C for big orders. You can contact me here: [redacted] Kind regards. Sebastian.
Hi Sebastian, Do you still trade in BKK atm or have you gone back home ? I was reading your remarks on gold alibaba membership issues wanted to ask if your trading still
As someone who works as a sourcing agent myself in China, I have to say, you have known Alibaba really well..Alibaba is the biggest B2B website in China, you can find as much suppliers as you want, but there's also some good alternatives B2B websites in China if you have some issues with Alibaba, like GlobalSources、DHgate.com~I don't mean to be a spammer, just in case you may meed one.
Good day John, Im still in business, i will go back to Bkk in February. Contact me: [redacted] Regards. Sebastian.
Hi greatinz i also think about your recomendation that alibaba is a very well known website in china.also known all over the world.i also follow ali baba and here cosmatics
I love reading an article that can mke men and women think. Also, thanks for allowsing me to comment!
Ali Express and Ali Baba are a real pure scam; forget any promised protection - they just rip you off your debited amount and then fend for yourself if problems arise; no real contact facility exists and the advised chatting channel is simply computer-generated robot chat delivering nonsense answers to comments/queries submitted to an extent that one could even feel insulted for being treated to be so stupid in receiving typical stupid answers!!! Beware! This is an eye-opener for anybody considering using Ali Express for transactions. Dishonest crooks - period! Never again.
We and our clients have a had a ton of success with both Ali Express and Alibaba. Alibaba is a public company now. There ARE scammers who use these services, that's why we provided this article! I'm sorry that you had such a poor experience with the supplier you worked with.
